kradeelav: Dr. Kiriko (Cliff)
recently hanging out in a discord with a bunch of repcomm vode (Republic Commando, old pre-disney SW EU mando-based series) and I learned there are

~*walon vau memes*~

god bless, fuck, i've been in stitches the whole day. (the backstory is I used to RP/draw this bitch for ... five, ten years? *points at handle*)

full list of memes given by discord vode under the cut - heads up for 4chan-esque humor.

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kradeelav: Satou, Ajin (Satou)
i’m sitting here marveling the sheer beautiful irony in a massive defense contract made to centralize authority (and data) named JEDI when the jedi themselves were essentially the (mind-reading) unaware military industrial complex of the aging republic.

ahahahaahha

oh my god

vau would love this
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the vauja scribbledump

so……………..some of y’all may have remembered when i was into vau/parja with @aknskywalker.   it is ….. not a wholesome ship by any means even though i think our au nailed the right tone and actually tackled the power differential tbh - but it was fun for a few RP years, etc. 

anyway, said Friend™ was present tonight when I stumbled on a folder with 30+ vauja scribbles i … literally have no memory of…..

it is my jam when favorite artists are brave enough to crack open those old sometimes-terrible skill wise awful cheesy as hell fluff doodles that clearly made their week - so I’m posting the half of the best ones in a dump and then promptly forgetting them again.

 

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so i’ve been rereading/skimming through repcomm today because i am the type to have .pdf versions on the laptop (shhh) in addition to the 2 hard copies (shhhhhhhh) not to mention the version that’s all of vau’s scenes pasted together in a doc and

i haz thoughts

(mostly belated ‘what tipsy-and-utterly-non-filtered!krad generally thinks of each character’ thoughts because large distinct casts are rad ?? and unsolicited opinions on each are even radder??)

  • kal: still a entertaining character to read - i forgot how much he waves around his knife at people and/or straight up throws it at them in a grown man hissy fit lol.  corporate!AU with kal as the ‘WE. ARE. FAMILY!!’ bellowing salesman-y sleezy CEO definitely seems like something that would be lolworthy and incredibly in character because god Now I Have Seen Several Real World Versions and they are both incredibly fun in parties and incredibly un-fun one-on-one.
  • distinctly Uninterested in the ’~how Bad of a Bad person is kal~’ discourse ((a) all of the cast being pointedly shades of grey was already p obvious imo…?) (b) that is like literally the least interesting thing about him, tell me about how fucked up his PTSD is from being a literal war orphan and loosing goddamn everything and how clearly that carries over into everything else including his massive class insecurity??? and © especially how it implicitly places vau’s choices as the more morally-correct by default which
    • hahahahhahahahahaha
    • haaaaaaaa
    • h e l l   n o 
  • given traviss being British, kal is the most spot on ‘american individualism’ character i’ve seen from a foreigner? which is both the coolest thing and the most damning thing depending on your take (or both).
  • etain: it took a very long time for me to warm up to her over the years as i am personally the type to hiss at the classic normie-special stand in that a lot of EU stories start with - but honestly?  aside from her being unnecessarily shafted at the end for the manpain, i kinda like how she was thrown way in over her head in a different kind of war; repcomm at its heart was about the tension between black ops asymmetric guerrilla shit (what traviss was clearly more familiar with) and ‘classical’ warfare (what the jedi and the movies showed) - the EU was at its best when authors brought their own specific interests to the table and shook the box up, and it happened to be hella timely what with the iraq war starting at the time (and all the questions about imperialism, how the fuck do you solve for military-industrial-complex problems when you were literally born to be a tool in the system, etc).
  • anyway
  • etain! 
  • the parts i really like about her tie directly to the parts when she rebels against jedi stereotypes - she’s non-judge-y and gets shit done in a very shocking way for a lady jedi protag (shit, she finished vau’s torture-interrogation in the second book without a peep, something i think jusik would’ve balked at - and fascinating considering ladies always get hit with the empathy ‘wah wah i don’t want to hurt peoplez, u manly men deal with it’ card).  her ability to read people’s internal moods(?) was super neat and a refreshing take on that empathy.
  • romance with dar was …. e h ?  i skip through those parts every time lol
  • (i definitely don’t dig her near total opposite thematic synergy with vau for bias reasons what do you mEAN)
  • i could write a whole essay on those parts cough actually fuck i did already
  • boss: is a really easy character to overlook! (as sadly, niner and omega fill in a very similar archetypal role of ‘the leader’ and ‘the squad of soldiers’ respectively and here in the books we got introduced to omega first, not delta)  but imo repcomm is very anime in the way it plays deliberately with archetypes after it sets them up (kind of like how every anime has something pretentious to say about the pretteh white haired red eyed creepy cutie set to start armegeddon)
  • i mean i’m not saying boss is a bishie but-
  • (shredded bishie and wow why have i not done pin ups of the entire cast they are all p smokin down to the last one)
  • ANYWAY
  • wookieepedia quotes temura morrison as saying boss is the closest clone to jango - which i think is a hilarious statement that also perfectly shows that archetypal play - jango is a very dry sort of character once stripped of his twisty past with mandalorians and his need to make boba - so you get a very bare-bones jango whose paternal instincts are slightly warped/redirected to delta as a whole, plus the most blunt period to the whole existentialist question of ‘clones’ - it isn’t tangled up in romance like dar, it isn’t tangled up in unexpected trauma like fi / scorch / atin / sev, it isn’t tangled up in mixed loyalties like niner - he does his duty, end of story.  i think there’s a lot of vau that shows up in the empty spaces of that (what with needing to be used as a tool), which tells you a lot about their dynamic.
  • deceptively interesting character, 8/10 would be tempted to write a standalone essay on the above
  • atin: i……….. surprisingly, took a while to “get” him?  i read hard contact first after picking up the books on a whim, so he didn’t stand out as having a Rough Past With A Reason until i went back and read them properly, and even then it was a while before he amassed to something beyond ‘oh yeah, screwed over by vau too many times’
  • part of me sometimes leans into ‘man KT really needed to give the man more of a personality other than ‘oh yeah screwed over by vau’ and it feels like his arc with Laseema was an attempt at fixing that plus shooing him off-stage to let the wimminz!! and their magic empathy!! solve all manpain!!! (/s)
    • (contrary to the tone of that sentence i actually dig atin/laseema more than etain/dar but more due to him being super chill with her whole story and having real chemistry there - both of them could have on point things to say about being abused by authority figures but i’m not sure if i trust KT to relay that right lmao )
  • [ pinches nose ] brutally honest here, it is always slightly awk talking about atin with me being the resident chatterbox vau ‘stan’ as while i do my best to dissect the fuckery that vau unleashed on him, i … am only human and i have a limited amount of time to frankly c a r e about how to dance around that, so….., yeah………
  • overall: slightly burnt sinnamon roll that strikes me as someone who has hidden depths that laseema / etain / jusik could pull out, would read fic of that and squee.
  • Scorch: i don’t see a lot said about scorch which is UNFORTUNATE because he had a pretty nifty arc what with that missle attac attack that was maybe a little anvilicious but again, brought an interplay of war-on-terror themes mixed with star wars that was impossible not to find … relevant, if not interesting?  I personally liked repcomm’s focus on the different takes on psychological trauma and all the ways folks can shake out -  healthy, unhealthy, oh god-how-are-you-alive, etc - an how it was A Big Deal but not … Too Serious?  like as tasteless as it sounds, it was still entertaining.
  • and Scorch other than Sev strikes me as the Entertaining One in Delta - the junkrat that has A Thing for explosives, the unintentional snark, the one they needed to feed all the witty lines to in the game, so he strikes me as a slightly caricaturized fellow that needed more deliberate shaping in the books, and what better way to do that than T R A U M A
  • (ahahahah who are we kidding that goes for all of them)
  • morbid jokes aside, i think there’s something fun to explore in how quick he was to be defensive when asked about his feelings after that - I think all the troopers would be to an extent, but there’s meat in how quickly he wanted to bounce back and be the ~ heart and soul of the group again ~
  • vau: you know, funny thing i think kal was my favorite character for the first 2 full rereads of the series, then somewhere between #3 and #21 (and an affair with Uthan), this bitch started growing me and didn’t stop.   
  • t h i s  b i t c h
  • that’s a really good summary of him actually
  • the pithy way to describe it in <100 words is that he dealt with fucked up shit by lining up Any And Every Care against a cinderblock wall and execution-style shot them in the temple and kept shooting like that for ~50 years until there was no weakness (and demanded no weakness at knife-point from actual traumatized kids) because there was nothing else to keep him from doing the same to himself out of fucking relief
    • and uh, teen!krad falling over at the fact that f i n a l l y there was somebody!!! that reacted to things in the exact same way!!! holy shit this is relatable!!! i have never felt like this about a character!  was maybe ……. a sign…… to think long and hard about skeletons in the closet etc etc
  • i have written essays organized in a table of contents on him i do not need to give him moar words (even though his dynamic with literally every character is interesting by default given he’s the perfect charismatic existentialist foil so there’s a lot to say regardless cough)
  • mird is cute and problematic like a schrodingers cat with more drool the end
  • Corr: probably my personal favorite out of the clones - i thought him him being the token wounded/disabled vet was shockingly??? tasteful???? by most standards and actually remarkably embodied the personalities i’ve seen in the same boat - very quick to lol / joke / squick out other folks at their rad titanium limbs as a way of pre-emptively disarming any potential awkward moments becauseohgodthosearetheworst and still has that dual charming but deeply morbid sort of humor that basically serves the same purpose. (hi) (yes yes other than vau he’s probably The Most Relatable #spoiler alert )
  • the ‘token thing’ doesn’t bother me as much considering literally every character had Trauma Baggage and he actually had a number of scenes not specifically centric to that, surprise surprise.
    • (his characterization being squashed in 501st was a crime against humanity given how that book shat on everyone but that’s neither here or there)
    • also lol @ the beetle racing that was such a random but … weirdly relatable scene considering how bored kids can get, and digging up insects to compare and coo over is apparently a universal Thing.
kradeelav: Dr. Kiriko (Cliff)

talking SW salt with a friendo about how the arla fett arc (in repcomm) literally doesn’t make sense from a thematic standpoint had me thinking about how I’d fix it. 

(I do love a good ‘well, fix it’ dare.)

arla’s problems being ….  (1) her whole arc serves no real purpose to the existing characters/plot, and it’s already an overcrowded cast with other beautiful plot threads to go on (2) her rushed patient/doc lopsided power dynamic romance with jusik feels awkwardly bolted on at best aka a similar issue i had with fi/parja and while skeevy ships can be fun, serves no purpose in a series that’s all about getting -out- of gnastly dependent situations. (3) while a ‘wary circling around each other and finally settling into mutual cautious respect’ arla/jusik platonic arc perks my interest (esp given their odd age gap with her being the worldly one) it needs a thematic link.

then it hit me; I don’t necessarily dislike arla’s inclusion overall because i very much enjoy her potential themes about being a living reminder to the inherent corrosive violence and black hatred of mando’ade culture. 

you know, like someone else

- like a certain interrogator in black armor who already has a well-established thematic parallel with a young naive jedi gal (ding) who’s partially blinded to the rotten core of mando’ade (ding) until she’s /(he’s) practically slapped in the face with uncomfortable philosophy convos + the sheer existence of the other older one (dingdingding) whose core ideals of resentment (and again, hatred) flies in the face of their attempt of ‘i wanna be a part of your happy mando’ade family b-but without the teeny tiny problem of Problematic un-jedi-like Lifestyle Shit’

tldr; i would pay money to see a platonic vau/etain <=> arla/jusik comparison fic

so help me
kradeelav: Dr. Kiriko (Cliff)










Reading this book gives a serious vibe of (a slightly crasser) vau giving sage advice to his commandos …  it’s making me distinctly nostalgic for the RC series.

7/10, would rec if you’re a weirdo into outdated psy-ops and guerilla theory with a chunk o’ black humor thrown in (like me).
kradeelav: Satou, Ajin (Satou)

[ see this post for explanation & the masterlist of this meta series ]  

Vau was now a statue of self-control. Etain said he always seemed utterly calm in the Force, even when he was shoving a vibroblade down someone’s gullet. Zey looked none the wiser. - True Colors

Control is a word that I’ve used a lot in these posts. 

There’s a reason why.

the words’ serene’ ‘detached’ 'cold’ ‘calm’ (and similar descriptive words in that quadrant) appear so often in the books that i’m frankly surprised it’s not a running fandom joke that that Vau has All The Chill™‚  (’defrosting’ tho) (ty izzy :P)   Thankfully - unlike some series - we have a handy no-shit way to see the character’s exact mental landscape, fairly untainted by biases: through the Jedi and what they sense in each of the characters. 

 

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kradeelav: Dr. Kiriko (Default)

[ see this post for explanation & the masterlist of this meta series ]  

even after a few thousand words on vau’s distrust on jedi in the galidraan section, i still wanna take a sec and poke more at why they’re (an unusually  interesting plot point + ) almost accidentally the nightmare fuel of SW?

also want to tie it in with Etain because the actual perfect dear handles all that suspicion so better than most folks give her credit.

 

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[ see this post for explanation & the masterlist of this meta series ]  

[Sergeant] Vau had never been a chatty man at the best of times; maybe this was the private Vau, the one his squads rarely saw.

- Order 66

One of the biggest sources of tension between Vau and his commandos - including Delta - is the misaligned idea between parent and mentor, and what his role is with them.  They desperately want him to be their father like Kal is for Omega - loving, accepting, and all-guiding.

He has not, and will never view the clones as his children*.

( … in many ways, that’s a good thing.)

 

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alt title: ‘that 4k 6k Wordy Meta Thing of Doom™ that’s been fermenting in krad’s drafts for several years, and wry not post it because you’re going to need this as reference for another hugeass post coming up and ah fuck it, let’s have fun~’

:D  

So!   What this is: a series of posts (already queue’d) on Vau - 

  • … analyzing what makes the man tick (aka an overall character study) …
    • I. On Galidraan ( because I can’t understate how much that event had on him, and how it ripples into his every action.)
    • II. On Control
    • III. on his fear of failure

( … good job, vau, your baggage apparently needs a table of contents for it to make sense. ) 

And to think all of this was once originally one post …  :’D

Needless to say!  After a few false starts of this, I realized it was easier for me (and you, my poor dear reader) to take a shotgun approach and have these posts to be split in smaller topics that can be taken as is - and read “out of order” if needed. 

(This masterlist will be updated as said posts get un-queue’d, so I would encourage folks not to reblog this specific post until all is said and done.)

Lastly, as a blanket disclaimer: by no means am i an authority on any character of RepComm.  At the end of the day, all of this - even my artwork - is an interpretation, including Traviss’ own.  Every interpretation is valid, and all interpretations are going to be colored by our individual life experiences. 

( …Do I agree with some more than others?  hell yes. That’s beside the point, though..)

All good?  Let’s roll.

kradeelav: Satou, Ajin (Satou)

[ see this post for explanation & the masterlist of this meta series ] 

“Now do you see? Do you?” Vau hissed the sibilant like escaping steam.

Mird cowered on the floor, whining softly.

“I’m sick to death of your sentimental twaddle about Jango betraying us by letting Kamino use his genes. He did it to stop the Jedi. He did it to create an army strong enough to bring them down. You drone on about the injustice of unelected elites, my little working-class hero - well, now they’re gone. Yes, it cost our boys’ lives, but the Jedi are gone, gone, gone. And they won’t be killing Mandalorians again, not for a long time. Maybe never.”

- Republic Commando: Order 66

Vau’s entire character makes a lot more sense when you factor in the massacre at Galidraan.  

For an EU recap:

At Galidraan - Jango and the core faction of the True Mandalorians walked into a trap that the Death Watch seized on: playing off the good jedi’s morality (and naivety) by sending a false distress message that the mercenaries were slaughtering unarmed civilians.  Their plan worked far better than anticipated as the Jedi confronted Jango - who was unwilling to back down - and sat by as the massacre unfolded, with Jango as the resulting sole survivor on the Mandalorian side.

Overnight, what was a splinter faction had demolished the backbone of the Mandalorian forces - no mean feat.  Experiencing a freak accident of being at the right (wrong) place at the right time, Vau and the handful of other surviving True Mandalorianes on other planets could do nothing as their entire command chain (and found family) fell in shambles.

And were left with one hell of a survivor’s-guilt punch.

(To get it out of the way - Vau himself clearly identifies with the True Mandalorian faction.  Off the top of my head: there’s the “Death Watch are my only enemy” quote in O66, his close-knit dynamic with Jango (which far exceeds Vau and Kal’s own barely working relationship which still nonetheless has material to span three books), what we know of his initiation in the Mandalorians, etc. 

They were his surrogate family, as much as he could admit such a thing.)

Keep in mind, also - that there was probably a long section of time where Vau had no idea Jango survived.  Jango went straight to Jedi captivity and slavery iirc, and if the remaining True Mandalorians had an idea of where he was, I gamble that there would’ve been at very least, a rescue attempt.  (Cynically - for a figurehead that could be useful in rallying the remaining clans to the cause.)

Jango sure reads like a personal quasi-mentor for Vau, if you ask me.  For someone who has extremely deep trust issues, loosing that on top of his entire support network would … not do any favors.

>> on survivor’s guilt

Touching on an earlier point, I am by no means a medical expert, but a lot of his actions can also be read as a pretty textbook case. This quote, right after the one shown above -

Vau didn’t meet Skirata’s eyes for a moment, but he glanced at Jusik. “I could have been at Galidraan, but I wasn’t, and I never forgot that. Not my fight. Should have been my fight.”
“And you could have been dead, now, too. Bard'ika, if you don’t know-”
“Oh, I know what happened at Galidraan,” Jusik said. “I know Jedi wiped out Jango’s entire army.” He paused. “And I know Jango killed Jedi with his bare hands, too, because I once talked to a Jedi who was there.”

-O66

- says it all.

For more physical symptoms -

  • mood swings / outbursts of anger (obvious. holy hell)
  • hyper-vigilance (something this entire cast has in spades)
  • anxiety (this seems like a contradiction to the whole ’~super chill ice king~’ shtick he has going, but bear with me.  think about overcompensating and the human nature of avoidance for now - I’m circling back to this in a different post.)

And what do we know, we see all three in the books.  

(Not seen directly in the books - but reactions that that I would bet a sizable amount of money on: •  exaggerated startle response, •  difficulty in falling or staying asleep, •  persistent remembering, or “reliving” the stressor by intrusive flashbacks / recurring dreams, to name a few.)

(Additionally - think about why he’s so (overly) attached to Mird, and then come back.)

>> On Jedi and Vau

This could use a whole post on itself, but Galidraan was also a focus for all the lingering resentments that he had before and afterwards - marking the Jedi as a convenient bogeyman to lay the blame down at their feet.  The sword of unmet justice, if you will.

( There’s a reason he wears black armor. )

Yes, the Death Watch were the ones who started it, but with the centuries-long bitter history between the Mandalorians and the Jedi, there’s more than enough room for a hatred that only gets stoked as time passes.    

It’s to the point that Jusik and Etain really …

… should be much more wary of him.  I would.  Just because malice isn’t overt and imminent doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, and there’s a monstrous and nurtured sense of contempt behind the effortlessly composed mask of ice.  You can see it if you look hard enough.

The hatred’s mixed with - strangely - fear as well.  (First time I read TripZero, I found it so bloody fascinating that here was a killer who would up-front admit to Kal that his greatest fear was Jedi.  No bones about it.  Vau has very little to fear.  He’s someone that could - and does - survive quite happily on the fringes of society, knows more ways to track and kill a man than he should, has a variety of income at his hands - general fears about survival and other beings aren’t a concern. )

(But when you factor in that Jedi can strip away every line of defense in a mind, could (and do) canonically violate every boundary of mental control - especially to unpalatable enemies - and when you consider Vau is someone who holds the idea of control and mental boundaries with a vicious and fanatical jealousy above everything else … then it makes more sense. )

Pair that fear with contempt, and with a desire for justice - all in an extremely intelligent man with black ops skills honed from decades worth of experience - and you have

a very,

very frightening enemy.  

He’s studied Jedi with the intent to kill. 

(Sev mentions it after the conversation with Zey.)  

He’s probably gone after a few, too.  (Pro bono or not, I couldn’t say.  Personally leaning towards not - a man has to have some standards.  Not something Etain would want to explore as a topic, I daresay.)

(Sidenote: I also believe Jusik knows this.)

To put it crudely, he theoretically sees Jedi as loose canons to be put down - as things that should, at the kindest, be kept under lock and key and a watchful eye that could minimize their damage.   At worst … all we have to do is look at his reaction above.  

(last sidenote: however. like all humans, his abstract ideal stars fuzzing when he meets Jedi individually - I’ll go into how he sees Jusik and Etain individually in their own sections.  They still do have bloody good reason to fear him, but their dedication to Mandalorian ideals and protecting the clones goes a long, long way with him. )

He wants so very badly to be the executioners axe.  Desires it as a singular purpose.  Why else would he react shockingly so, after hearing that the clones committed to O66 in the quote above?  Why else, other than suddenly finding out his near-lifelong fantasy had been god damn done - but beat by someone else’s hand?

It’s a shockingly bittersweet realization, is what it is.

kradeelav: Dr. Kiriko (Cliff)
Anonymous: How do you feel about clones? Especially how they were humanized in spin off material both Legends as well as TCW?

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That’s an interesting question! I think the clones are one of the reasons people should lay off George Lucas— they add a real layer of depth to the prequels that wasn’t exactly stated in the movie but I think was easy enough to read into all the same. 

For one thing, the clones, Jedi, and Chancellor make and interesting counterpart to the droid army, Sith apprentices and Sith Lord. Out of those six forces, who actually has real agency? Sidous/Palpatine, who is the same terrible fucking guy (you could make a case for Dooku, I guess, but given how badly he gets screwed in ROTS…)

First: clones and droids. Canon can be kind of erratic with how droid sentience is treated— mostly its for laughs, like that deleted scene where Anakin and Obi-Wan have a hearty lol after destroying a room full of them. The thing is, we know droids have enough self-awareness to be cognizant of their own mortality (is it mortality when they’re robots? Is that the right word? What I mean is, they know their consciousness can be destroyed). Given that all the battle droids are the same model and seem to have the same personality core, no one really cares when they’re killed

The thing is, I’m pretty sure people are thinking the exact same thing about the clones themselves. 

Clones are manufactured, given artificial life, programmed, and set out for one task. They’re the droids of TPM clothed in flesh, and that flesh causes revulsion in us. Suddenly all the same ethical nightmares inherent in a droid army become so much realer and closer when its actual organic beings being thoroughly dehumanized. 

The most interesting example of clone characterization/possible window into their views on droids sentience is that one arc that I can’t remember where a clone is caught taking droid fingers as trophies and stringing them on a necklace. The other clones find this repulsive— which doesn’t make so much sense, in a universe where droids are regularly destroyed, scrapped, and cannibalized for parts, until you realize its almost assuredly a reference to American war crimes committed during the Vietnam War. The original trilogy was written in response to the war and similar themes play out in the prequels— a legislative body incapable of providing any real oversight or action (alright, that could be any time in American history), a charismatic but manipulative and amoral head of government, a war that takes children who never understand what it is they’re fighting for and grinds them into so much meat. The clones are children— artificially aged but still only a few years old at best. They have no context of the Galaxy outside of what they learned (or were fed, rather) on Kamino. They have only their programming and Republic jingoism (what would actually happen if the CIS aligned planets were allowed to leave the Republic? Would it be…bad?). No one cares about their lives, and none of them actually understands what it is they are supposed to die for. 

Which makes them an interesting foil to the Jedi, as well— Jedi are similarly indoctrinated since birth, trained to be lethal just out of toddlerhood, whose entire identity is composed of being peacekeepers who preserve the Republic. I don’t doubt that the Jedi have an extensive knowledge of cultures and politics spanning the Galaxy, but given they they are never allowed to act on anything but “the will of the Force” (which, as the war drags on, becomes “Things the Chancellor says” or “whatever is expedient”), does it actually matter? An army of drones lead by living weapons. Fucking yikes.  

I don’t feel like that’s what you were asking at all— uhhh tl;dr TCW is fucking great, George Lucas is really great at metaphors

kradeelav: (Masks)


the thing that bugs me the most with the new SW canon (which is saying something, as it’s most of it, lmfao) is how abominably lazy and fundamentally gross the ‘clones betrayed the jedi due to a brainwashing chip’ bullshit was

especially when the preexisting reason was what held together the thematic narrative of the prequals to begin with.

like, yeah, a slave army bred to be used and discarded in a war where they saw their brothers die without nearly a peep from either the Council or the general populous would ~*probably*~ have a beef with those same folks.  ( there is no hypocrisy quite like the kind from those who’ve always believed themselves as heroes. )

the issue in particular is how the chip explanation utterly robs the clone’s humanity and agency.  Suddenly any legitimate resentment at being chained to someone else’s hands is pushed aside and they can be forced back in the nice pretty narrative box of ‘well at least it wasn’t the jedi’s fault, they’re the good guys after all.  can’t have any blood on their hands. can we?’.

and like, this isn’t even going into Jango’s entire reason of creating his clone army - the clones were made to be an instrument of exacting revenge against the institution that let Galidraan happen.  What sweeter and morbid irony is that idea when the clones do turn on the jedi out of their own free will?  Granted, he’s also using their existence just like the people he hates, but …

( - and then we’ve got the grey area of the commandos, who were more or less all trained by the same mandalorians who survived Galidraan, and would probably internalize that hatred of jedi on some level and sympathize more with the likes of jango when it was time to do the job.*)

i digress.

( *ngl I wouldn’t be surprised that in traviss-ish-canon, the commandos who were trained under the more xenophobic/unprofessional mandalorians (Priest/Reau as an example) didn’t already turn on the jedi in some scattered incidents. now that is something I’d like to see more.  how would plo koon deal with that, I wonder?)

kradeelav: Satou, Ajin (Satou)

rereading bits of hard contact/triple zero to refresh faulty memory - have some commentary below, mostly small things that I’m still picking up after reading this series god-knows-how-many-times:
 

  • so apparently Jusik met Delta Squad before Omega (as Delta helped furnished a large chunk of the commando division of the GAR’s armory), which is interesting; apparently Delta tends to collect … souvenirs more than any other squad?  also means they were on quite a few missions immediately after Geonosis.
    • debating on whether that’s a ‘learned-from-vau’ thing or just a quirk given they’re trained by the cuy’val dar in general; leaning towards the latter.  Fi swiped Ghez Hokan’s armor too, after all.  And I’m pretty sure Mereel and the Nulls swiped some other things too …
  • speaking of Vau, I think it’s rather odd that he was still involved with his squads after Geonosis, despite Kal being completly cut off from the Nulls of all things. Omega and Kal’s other squads would be understandable, but Nulls were Kal’s boys, yeah?  (I say this because Vau had to be involved right after Geonosis in order for the timing to work out if he sliced up Atin; and then there’s the whole question of where that occurred.)
    • Here’s my educated guess: during the chaos of when the clones left Kamino - some of the cuy’val dar (including Vau) hitched a ride on the assault capital ships.  Kal stayed behind to tie up loose ends, and to see that all of his boys had a farewell, and then snagged a small starfighter to -eventually- Coruscant.  Vau likely stayed on the assault capital ship that had most of his squads, for several reasons.  (1) curiosity to see how well his commandos functioned; he’s a long term thinker unlike Kal, and probably realized that he’d be brought back into the GAR on a consultant basis, and what better way to be prepared for that? (2) To also see how well the Jedi interacted with his commandos; and to gain more knowledge on how Jedi react to unanticipated events.  This is the man that knew how to fool Zey - who’s no dummy as the fuckin’ jedi director of special forces - and his mind-reading.  and lastly, (3) Vau subconsciously feels most comfortable in a military setting that reflects navy traditions the most; and starfighters/ships fit the bill.  I don’t think that needs explaining. 
    • so tldr; for the above question: Vau was likely onboard the same assault capital ship when Atin came back from Geonosis, and that’s when that whole sad event occurred.
  • holy shit Etain’s LJ50 conc rifle is fucking huge
  • I’m having trouble nailing when Jusik first meets Kal; narratively the books almost makes you want to think it was when Ordo/Kal/Jusik investigate the terrorist explosion in TripZero,  But right before, Jusik says: ‘I have a very great regard for our sergeant, too.“ - implying he knew Kal before.  Not long, but enough to at least to understand Kal’s loyalties and whether they’d get along.  (That’d be a fun meeting to explore either in fic or art.  ;D  )
    • in addition: kal makes rather a snap decision on ‘jusik is a good kid’ right at the scene of that explosion if they had just met; whereas it makes more sense if they’ve met previously once.
    • and now I wonder if Zey was present for that meeting …
    • (in hindsight it makes total sense that Jusik would be fond of Kal if he of all people was in charge of the GAR’s armory, haha, that kid was a weapons nut from day one.)
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    it says a lot about the Nulls that they kept that name; the one the Kaminoans assigned to them as an afterthought - after attempting to dispose of them.

        null;  being or amounting to nothing; nil; lacking; nonexistent. absence.

    Kal gave them individual names, and they treasure those; but there’s a fundamental irony in sharing that brand of being erased so viscerally, and taking it back.

    people who don’t exist don’t have opinions, do they?

#republic commando  #is a series about being systematically othered; cast aside.  i really do think that’s the main draw.  #at its heart are the clones that are systematically dehumanized from their title onewards  #but the others aren’t untouched - etain and jusik are cast aside because they ask too many questions  #laseema and vau are othered because of their past experiences and circumstances - likewise with uthan.  #when there is a society that states your mere existence as an aberration - you learn to take it back. (there is no other option)  #you’ll note that everyone in this story has an arc that is fundamentally about survival and acceptance and learning to live with that.  #i! have a lot of feelings about this!!!  #god these books are a gift to the EU
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you know, Yoda’s quote about fear/anger/hatred has always disturbed me on so many levels since I first heard it, and I think I’ve finally unraveled some bits why.

He’s speaking in a position of absolute power and security versus young Anakin before him - of fucking course his idea of fear is going to be nothing like the one who is braving the entire galaxy of unknowns on a word of a mysterious man. 

It’s human nature to fear, especially if you’re desperate, maligned in some way, alone - it’s a survival mechanism wired to our very bones.  Instead, weaponize that fear.  Pull it out of your heart, sharpen it like a knife, learn how to use it responsibly and defend yourself - better yet, make an entire suit of armor out of your fear and hatred.  Pretending it doesn’t exist is foolishness to the uptenth degree, at least know how to fucking use it.  Otherwise it’s just a loaded gun in your hand, festering; and it’s going to turn on you at some point.

And Yoda never understood that - mando'ade, particularly Jaster’s faction -were always in a position of inferiority to force users and always being used by them.  They had to learn how to survive, use their armor, their anonymity, their hatred - everything at their disposal just to stay alive and left alone.  Their armor was just another layer of their identity; another way to re-forge themselves from broken, bitter selves to selves with choices and choices of ideals that they considered worth fighting for.  Family, justice, duty - every choice was respected, every person was respected (or rightly derided) for what they did, not what they couldn’t shred and destroy from themselves.

Fear for them is an integral part of their identity - you don’t turn to a life of violence like that unless you seek control of self with a terrible, terrible price.  Every one of them knew what it was like to run from something unbeatable, to be that desperate - their glory and pride is that they learned to master it.  And it is so incredibly worth it being proud of your self and yourself conquering your fears.

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