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me: can we have a new FE console game that's not engage pls
mom: we have a new FE console game at home
the FE console game at home:

i gotta say, the level design in this game is the best of the series for me, beats even radiant dawn (!!). the creativity here in terms of working around various gimmicks such as stairs dividing various platforms into individual stages (rainbow sage), the breaking poison/medicine pots with the stage itself giving you various buffs/debuffs, etc is just. really well done. where tf did those elements go with 3H?
- averaging about one reset a map starting with ch10 on normal (still trying to learn Fate's weapon triangle and the whole pair up mechanism), but it's not even the least bit annoying since it makes me take a break for a day or a half to try to figure out what i would do differently. (thaaat said load/savestates probably helps with that, since i can effectively 'save' halfway through when i'm in a good spot....)
character wise, just vibing with my current crew though i'm warming up to elise unexpectedly? she's kind of the standard 'younger sibling genki girl' but there's flashes of moments like with milly in trigun where you're kinda wondering if half of it is a facade vs not (and if so, which half) leo is also way nicer than i thought he would be given my impression of him through fandom osmosis lol. one of my favorite translaters back in the day was a leo fan, (ammie - gave me my first zihark cipher cards after i went through some fandom drama and i drew soren and leo for her. one of those that has been offline for a long while, hope she's all right).
the "story" is pretty. l o l. but there's something about the overall plot that i like in the sense it's telling you 'don't take me very seriously, this is all but a fanfic written by two teens trying to outdo each other with stupid silly sibling drama ideas, but focus instead on how messed up you can go with implications, backstories, and ships. go ham'.
- like it's a good thing not all stories are like this but like how it's almost at this point - i have tellius if i want to take things mostly seriously but as i get older the more i crave sometimes, cracky, weird af horny stories just to be silly and extreme in. both r good!
i ship camilia/f!corrin so much, man, she's so yandere. and her design is. so cool. bigly tiddies. but also so cool in the sense that she rides this badass GLOWY EYE DRAGON and shoots fireballs AND AXES, this is that 'horny fanfic (but lean into it unironically)' vibe i was mentioning above.
speaking of teh horny, it is honestly wild remembering the Sheer Drama(tm) i vaguely remember when it first came out and i was checked out and fully in star wars land temporarily. i was mentioning to somebody in a server about just now looking up all the male skinship (basically a mini-game where you manhandle your husbando/waifu and blow bath bubbles from them LMAO) translated lines, and how they were so horny. it straight up scandalized huge chunks of EN fandom (not to mention the underage incest bits) and that same somebody in the server remarked how Fates was kind of ahead of its time, because now a lot of games are like that, wheras Fates kinda was a trailblazer in the sense.
- speaking of, watching fanthologies fall apart b/c of purity police while submerging into the game where a possessed double-incest underage ossan villain ship (gunter/f!corrin) is canon is so funny to me. lol. lmao even. :D (and yes i'll be drawing this one i've been waiting for a d e c a d e for this ossan tiddy)

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alaterdate

Oooh Fates. I love the maps in Conquest, but I agree the writing is just... something.... It is fun in places, but some of the moralizing bugs me, it's even more insufferable to me in Birthright though. I do wish Conquest had just gone ham with being the dark evil kingdom and let me actually commit atrocities on purpose lol.

I was in the trenches when people were complaining about the skinship minigame and I was just baffled that that was where they drew the line when you could marry your brothers/sisters in the game (at the time it wasn't established that none of them are actually blood related to Corrin ). I had people giving me shit for marrying Aversa in Awakening because she was adopted by what's-his-face-Robin's-dad-Validar :^( but oh no it's fine now??? Anyway, I bought Conquest because I wanted to marry Xander lolll.
I suppose you've met Charlotte by now, she's my favorite lol. Also got shit about how she's a "t-rex armed titty waifu", but she's MY t-rex-armed-titty-waifu! 😂

I was talking with

neotula about Fates supports we liked and how I thought that Elise's support convos with Ryoma in Revelations have lines that show that yeah she's childish, but she's not completely clueless.

the game where a possessed double-incest underage ossan villain ship (gunter/f!corrin) is canon

Lol. Ok. Fates really did let us eat what they were cooking huh 😂

kradeelav

You are SO right with the moralizing bits in Conquest, omg. Didn't really see it until about Ch10 or so (until Corrin leans into the war on Hoshido and finds out about Azura's whole stick) but yeah that's one glaring weakness that rings a bit odd considering how the rest of Nohr is framed. The worst bit is, it wouldn't take that much to tweak it; Corrin could still regret Hans' massacre, in the sense of 'useless, doesn't even serve a function, while still being power hungry enough that it feels like we, the player get to go ham lmao.

Past you wanting to marry Xander (and Aversa) is so correct and you should say it again. :P Fantastic taste in villainous characters, and I see what you mean about Charlotte. She's refreshingly self aware, ditto with her dynamic with Benny, and has that side of biting humor even for herself.

neotula

Elise is good! like

alaterdate said, she does have some genuine depth. She's a kid, yeah, but also, she grew up in Nohr and quite notably, she's one of Garon's children who survived. She likely had to be more mature/have that depth in order to live. (I have more to say about Elise, but I'll let you play the game first!)

also, all your talking about camilla is making me wanna write her more. it definitely took me getting some distance from playing fates to like her--she was too over the top for me at first, but i've come to really like her character concept. some of the execution still rubs me wrong, but i definitely like her more than i used to.

Fates really is in a fun spot where the characterization is well done enough to link interiority in some incredibly interesting ways (why are they like that? can one connect the dots in one playthrough and based off of some support convos?) while also being *just* off kilter enough to make for some thoroughly interesting fanfic material in terms of elaborating it or tweaking the stories. :3

Glad you liked reading the post! And haha, that was Micaiah for me for a long while until fanficcers got a hold of her and showed some interesting sides.

queenlua

i never got past ch11 of Conquest (hard mode ch10 was HARD, hard enough that i felt like i needed a break after i finished it, and then i... forgot to pick it up again, lol)

but god i remember how incredible the level design was. like clearly S-tier among the FE games in that respect. it's a shame that i don't think they've ever recaptured that tier of level design / game mechanic polish because it was SO good lol

hahaha agreed, Conquest Ch10 feels like the rubicon for Fates and I *shudder* at what the higher tiers of difficulty are like considering it was the perfect storm of powerful, high-movement and fast enemies versus a defense map where there's precious few tanking characters allowed, plus wanting to pick up the items in the houses ...

I wonder if there was a reason why a lot of those map gimmicks weren't repeated - like the level team got switched out, or if they were an unexpected strain on the resources :o would be curious to know!

Engage felt like its level design was more in the spirit of Conquest—more level-specific gimmicks, more variety in level design, etc—would be curious if those are the same team. (though i do think Engage is weaker overall, haha, like i said, hard to beat Conquest!)

Oooh, that's a point towards Engage I haven't heard yet. :o encouraging to see that the team hasn't lost the spirit there with those kinds of levels, maybe we'll see a resurgence of it!

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